Sis seems to skip more then it needs to

[wellington]

Edit: I just had to reload the 76-78 section and now it seems to be working.




I have the newest update and it was working but when i got to a certain point, it skipped like crazy and it now on a quest where i have to talk to someone but they dont have a quest for me...

[jetsnut]

I have the same problem. the program seems to skip to far ahead and puts me in a spot were I can do anything

[cabby]

In the Dynamic Progression section of the Zygor options there's a slider bar. Set this slider to 5 and you should see almost no skipping.

[jetsnut]

Thanks cabby that seems to have worked.

[zgdev]

Also, please, pretty please report ALL such cases, where you're asked to accept a quest an NPC isn't giving you. It's most likely not a temporary case that it "skipped too far", but a case where a quest isn't known to us to have prerequisites, while it actually does have some. We need your feedback to catch all such issues!

[Kamchak]

Also, please, pretty please report ALL such cases, where you're asked to accept a quest an NPC isn't giving you. It's most likely not a temporary case that it "skipped too far", but a case where a quest isn't known to us to have prerequisites, while it actually does have some. We need your feedback to catch all such issues!

Not that Zygor team needs my $0.02 worth, but...

Patch 3.3 also changed some quest numbers in the LUA file, causing major issues as well.

[silgo76]

Blood Elf 1-13 Step 93: SiS doesn't seem to think that Corrupted Soil is a prerequisite for Unexpected Results... luckily they are at the same npc. I'm running it with 0 levels ahead so I'll post more as I level

[Zygor]

We updated the guides yesterday, which tied together alot of hidden chains in levels 1-60. Did you update yesterday? If so, the newest version should be recognizing Corrupted Soil as a pre-req for Unexpected Results. Thanks.

[silgo76]

I hadn't updated yet so I will do that, did the new one also fix the prereq for The Escape which is Ignition..

So far those were the only two I've run into

[Zygor]

With the update that was released earlier today, both the Horde and Alliance guides should be correctly "tied together" with hidden chains up to level 70. We are working on fixing levels 70-80 for both guides now. If you find any errors with pre-reqs in levels 1-70, please let us know, so that we can fix it quickly. Thank you.

[ericjai]

Just wanted to thank cabby for the tip :D. Haven't skipping one step so far. It was really annoying when it skipping like 5 steps. Thanks !

[natit89]

Mh it skip really many Quests that need for some other quest where Zygors stop.

Expample my charakter is lvl 75
I complete quest from Step 265 ( in Horde Nothrend 74-76 ) then it jumps to step 273 and now i can't collect this knife in the tree trunk...
:mad:

i will collect some other skips that doesen't make sence.

Here a Screenshot of my Settings:

Screenshot (http://i45.tinypic.com/xgcgj.png)

Anything wrong ?


EDIT:

a few Steps later.

Complete Step 279 -Jump to -> 281 .
The Quest for 281 was in the step 280.. why does sis skip this step ?

[tanthelus2]

Ok, here's my experience with Dynamic Progress. I downloaded and installed the lasted version on 1/19/10. After install I disabled all three of the skip step features and things were behaving as previous to the update.

I was playing my lvl 74 human DK at 52% and wanted to see how the dynamic skipping worked, so I turned them all on and left the default "0 levels ahead". This is what happened.

1) I arrive in Wintergarde Keep (Alli Guide: Northrend 74-76, step 20), talk to High Commander Halford Wyrmbane, turn in that quest and get "Naxxramas and the Fall of Wintergarde". Steps 21 - 26 work fine.

2) At Step 26, I return to HC Halford Wyrmbane and turn in "Return to the HC". It then immediately skips to Step 29 without waiting for me to accept either of the other two quests, "Rescue from Town Square" and "The Demo-gnome". :confused:

3) Step 29, is "Talk to Siege Engineer Quarterflash" and turn in "The Demo-Gnome", which I don't have because the guide "skipped" me picking up that quest in Step 26. So I go back and get it and "Rescue from Town Square". Go back to Siege Engineer Quarterflash, turn in "The Demo-Gnome", and it immediately jumps to Step 32, again without waiting for me to accept either of the other two quests, "The Search for Slinkin" and "The Bleeding Ore". :confused:

4) I do Step 32, it then jumps to Step 35, I turn in "Rescue from Town Square". This time it waits for me to accept the quest "Find Durkon" and then jumps to Step 37 "Talk to Durkon", which I do. It then immediately jumps to Step 46 "Click the Wintergarde Mine Bomb". I go to (80, 41) only to find out this is the objective of the quest that DP skipped over on Step 29 and subsequently, Step 45 - Talk to Slinkin the Demo-gnome). :mad:

5) This continues to happen on subsequent steps.

The bug, if that is truly what it is, appears to be that when DP is on, the guide does not wait for you to accept some quests it expects you to do later.

I can set the number of levels ahead to a higher number, but then that kind of defeats the purpose of DP. If this can't be fixed, then I'll go back and turn off DP.

After using Zygor Guides, both Alli and then Horde for over a year, this is the first issue or criticism I've had with the development. :(

[zgdev]

2) At Step 26, I return to HC Halford Wyrmbane and turn in "Return to the HC". It then immediately skips to Step 29 without waiting for me to accept either of the other two quests, "Rescue from Town Square" and "The Demo-gnome". :confused:
And those steps were displayed in what colour? If they were blue, it means the guide decided you'd only be wasting time on those quests. But you said you were level 74, so that shouldn't happen. If they were gray, it would mean that the quests are impossible for you to take, because some prerequisite wasn't completed. All in all, if the quests were to be accepted, their lines would have been displayed in red-to-become-green. Are you saying the guide skipped over perfectly acceptable, not 'old', quest accept lines?

Please, open up the guide as you have it, scroll and click the step number 26, and get a Bug Report from the configuration screen. Then do the same for step 29.


3) Step 29, is "Talk to Siege Engineer Quarterflash" and turn in "The Demo-Gnome", which I don't have because the guide "skipped" me picking up that quest in Step 26. So I go back and get it and "Rescue from Town Square".
And again the turn-in step was displayed as red, gray, blue..? If the guide advised you to skip that quest, then it would probably be safe to just skip it indeed, and not to worry about turn-ins.

Almost everything you've described seems proper behaviour for a level 75-or-higher character: many quests might get skipped, as the guide may be trying to get to the 75 section as quickly as possible. But if you're indeed 74, then please post screenshots, bug reports, anything that might help us solve the problem.

Now,

4) I do Step 32, it then jumps to Step 35, I turn in "Rescue from Town Square". This time it waits for me to accept the quest "Find Durkon" and then jumps to Step 37 "Talk to Durkon", which I do. It then immediately jumps to Step 46 "Click the Wintergarde Mine Bomb". I go to (80, 41) only to find out this is the objective of the quest that DP skipped over on Step 29 and subsequently, Step 45 - Talk to Slinkin the Demo-gnome). :mad:
This should not happen, either: if you don't have the quest in your log, the guide is set to ignore that step and skip further on. Again, please get a Bug Report (and paste it here) with that step on. We'll probably be able to tell what happens and why.

[tanthelus2]

Please, open up the guide as you have it, scroll and click the step number 26, and get a Bug Report from the configuration screen. Then do the same for step 29.

These quests were not in my quest log at that that time and the guide jumped to a step in the middle of them. However, in the intervening time I have accepted and completed some of these quests.


Almost everything you've described seems proper behaviour for a level 75-or-higher character: many quests might get skipped, as the guide may be trying to get to the 75 section as quickly as possible. But if you're indeed 74, then please post screenshots, bug reports, anything that might help us solve the problem.

This should not happen, either: if you don't have the quest in your log, the guide is set to ignore that step and skip further on. Again, please get a Bug Report (and paste it here) with that step on. We'll probably be able to tell what happens and why.

I will look for the next "peculiar behavior" and submit it as a bug report.

Thx.

[natit89]

Another skip that makes no sence to me ;-)

Northrend Horde Guide 76-78

Step 44 there you have to click on the chest.
Step 45 Skipped by SIS
Step 46 You have to use the thing from the chest , BUT that can you do only alive and this is what Step 45 do , there you have to talk to the troll inside the cave to make you alive.
It will skip i think caus it already checked as completed but in real its not. (step 45)

I hope you understand what i mean ^_ ^


EDIT:
SIS skip all the "make xyz to your home location" steps...

[Kamchak]

Another skip that makes no sence to me ;-)

Northrend Horde Guide 76-78

Step 44 there you have to click on the chest.
Step 45 Skipped by SIS
Step 46 You have to use the thing from the chest , BUT that can you do only alive and this is what Step 45 do , there you have to talk to the troll inside the cave to make you alive.
It will skip i think caus it already checked as completed but in real its not. (step 45)

I hope you understand what i mean ^_ ^


EDIT:
SIS skip all the "make xyz to your home location" steps...


I will default the skipping portion to Zygor et al; however, the "Home" steps or getting a flight path steps will be skipped if you have the "Skip Ancillary Steps" box.
Right-click the "Z" by the minimap, go to Zygor, select "Dynamic Progress" and uncheck this box. It will not skip these steps any longer.
I would recomend that if you do uncheck this, and the SIS skips until it says "make xyz home," check forward in the guide to make sure you arent going to spend time on a step only to have it send you to another location to set your home to.

[kryptonneke]

I'm a lvl 77 pally right now and I just finished step 132 of the northrend (76-78) guide. And then the guide skips to step 137 and waits for me to complete the alchemists job. However one of the steps skipped is the step where I have to pick up the quest for that.

[spasm]

Zygor and team,

Thought i'd come back to your guide for the lvl 60-70 part try out the new mapping you have done, seems to be very good well done.

However I'm skipping a lot of quests asking me to hand in quests i havent even picked up, is there a way so i can set the sis system not to skip any quests?

Spasm

[Zygor]

Zygor and team,

Thought i'd come back to your guide for the lvl 60-70 part try out the new mapping you have done, seems to be very good well done.

However I'm skipping a lot of quests asking me to hand in quests i havent even picked up, is there a way so i can set the sis system not to skip any quests?

Spasm

Go into the addon options menu and click the "+" next to ZygorGuidesViewer, then click Dynamic Progress in the option list that shows. In the Dynamic Progress options that display on the right, move the slider bar up to 80. This will make the guide not skip anything. Also, uncheck all of the other Dynamic Progress options.

[Slvrdrgn77]

i have downloaded the updated version as of today, due to the skipping of steps, and not just completed steps. and i have the skip ahead set to 0. but i have noticed when i turned in quests, that sometimes it would just 3 or 4 steps ahead, and others would jump as much as 10-15 steps ahead

[cabby]

That would be normal, especially if you're a higher level than the guide thinks you should be.

[nicet]

I am a level 20 human mage. Guide skipped me ahead to step 202 in guide 13-20. Guide wants me to accept "A Baying of Gnolls" but I can't because I haven't done the pre-reqs for this NPC (which reading back looks like there is a zone to zone quest that is necessary). This is the second time on a second toon I've seen skipping problems.

[Zygor]

I am a level 20 human mage. Guide skipped me ahead to step 202 in guide 13-20. Guide wants me to accept "A Baying of Gnolls" but I can't because I haven't done the pre-reqs for this NPC (which reading back looks like there is a zone to zone quest that is necessary). This is the second time on a second toon I've seen skipping problems.

What version of the guides are you using? I just checked and that quest line is correctly tied together in our guides.

[fbond]

just got to twilight highlands and it skipped about 50 steps all quests to get to a flight path got that then it skipped anther 50 to make my home lol needs repair bad please fix this...................

[cabby]

As you can see in this thread: http://www.zygorguides.com/forum/showthread.php?9031-Talent-Builds-Updated-Other-Guide-Fixes

It clearly states that the SIS is only fixed right now for the 1-60 portion of the guides. Twilight Highlands is in the 60-85 section of the guides and as such the SIS still isn't fixed for those. Please disable the SIS if you are over level 60 until the team finish fixing the SIS for the upper levels. To disable the SIS go into the Dynamic Progression section of the guide options, uncheck all 4 boxes, and adjust the slider all the way to the right.

[Kamchak]

Going to close the thread. The post before this months was made in Feb. The other post after was resolved stating the SIS is only for the 1-60 at this time.