How long to 80?

[ankhanan]

Assume I play 3-4 Hours a day, using all the Hierloom gear, and not doing any professions - About how many total hours or days should it take to get to 80?

Ankhanan - 80 Druid Main
Kneuddelmaus - 80 Warlock alt
Poogootoo - 57 Priest - First Zygor leveled toon @ 3 Days, 19 Hours, 12 Mins

[Kamchak]

Assume I play 3-4 Hours a day, using all the Hierloom gear, and not doing any professions - About how many total hours or days should it take to get to 80?

Ankhanan - 80 Druid Main
Kneuddelmaus - 80 Warlock alt
Poogootoo - 57 Priest - First Zygor leveled toon @ 3 Days, 19 Hours, 12 Mins

Given a drive and 'purpose' leveling attempt there is are times posted of 6 to 8 days in a /played time.

Since BoA gear is an added 5%, and that is relative to how many PVE's you need to kill to complete quests, Ill leave that variable out of the equation.

So, 24 hours in a day x an average of 7 days /played ='s 168 hours. Your average time per day played is given as 3.5 hours.

24 hours * 7 days = 168 hours divided by 3.5 hours per day spent.....

168 hours / 3.5 hours = 48

At 3.5 hours per day play time it would take you 48 days.

[sonalita]

boa gear adds 20% - 10% for shoulders and 10% for chest, and it now also applies to quest reward xp, not just mobs - so your numbers are all 20% too low assuming you have boith heirloom items.

[Kamchak]

boa gear adds 20% - 10% for shoulders and 10% for chest, and it now also applies to quest reward xp, not just mobs - so your numbers are all 20% too low assuming you have boith heirloom items.

indeed they are. But assuming you yourself needed to kill a total of 150 less PVE's to get drops than another person that needed to kill 300 more than average, using the 20% ratio is variable, and not needed for a stable estimation of time needed to play. Also take into account that rest XP is 200% vs 100% of non rest XP; 20% boost in rest XP is much higher than non... but will a player religiously use only rest XP? I for one don't pay attention to that, as its not a factor in leveling with this guide. It is known, however, that with the BoA's you get that boost in XP, so the time is reduced. How much or that time reduced cannot be quantified due to many factors... so I left that as a suprise for him when he dings faster than that 48 days time I posted. ;)

[ankhanan]

I am using all 5 pieces of BoA gear on my Preist and at now level 59 I am 3 levels beyond the guide. I have done a couple of side quests as well which are also boosting XP gains a bit.

My concern is that I will get to 70, and be 4-5 levels beyond the guide and not be gaining optimal experience. I suppose the BoA items bridge the gap somewhat but I would rather behitting the optimal quests for optimal gains.

Ankh

[Kamchak]

I am using all 5 pieces of BoA gear on my Preist and at now level 59 I am 3 levels beyond the guide. I have done a couple of side quests as well which are also boosting XP gains a bit.

My concern is that I will get to 70, and be 4-5 levels beyond the guide and not be gaining optimal experience. I suppose the BoA items bridge the gap somewhat but I would rather behitting the optimal quests for optimal gains.

Ankh

Understood. You're main focus should be making sure you are in at least green quests, and not grey.

If you choose to skip a portion of the guide, you are can. I skipped to outland once I hit 62, and still had many quests to go on the guide.

I hit 70 in outland with many more quests to go... and will dump them all when I hit 72 and go to North.

The only concerns you should have, in my opinion, are: Am I at least in yellow/green quests, and am I having a darn good time. heheh

[Kamchak]

And I see my error from the first post. hahah

Yes, the BoA's that give xp boost are chest and shoulder, 10% each, not 5% total.

grrr... it was late when I posted that. yes, that is my excuse... it was late. :p

[ankhanan]

Thius far I have not skipped any quests and not have dropped to Grey. I am hesitant to skip quests since some are parts of chains and will ultimate give great XP in the end.

Since this is my first time to run with the guide I am basically lookingforward to what might happen when I reach ~70 and some of the quests may not be as rewarding.

We will see. I am posting this during a cross world flight and about to ding 60.

Ankh

[cabby]

Even if the xp rewards aren't as nice as you'd like when you get to that 70 area you'll still be getting some nice gold rewards from the quests.

[sonalita]

if you're way ahead of the guide my advice would be to get to outland/northrend as fast as possible as the relative xp rewarded from outland quests is MUCH higher than in azeroth. Depending in yoiur class and experience of wow, it is entirely possible to even go to outland early at 58 - with heirlooms you will have no problem keeping up with the guide (I had no problems at all killing mobs when taking both my mage and my dk to outland at 58 and northrend at 68) - other people around here have differing opinions though so do what you feel comfortable doing :) I certainly wouldnt wait till 62/72 before moving across.

[1manarmy]

Noob here, what does BoA stand for and where do you get the items? What are heirlooms? Rings and trinkets?

[Zygor Support]

BOA = Bind on Account

[ankhanan]

So last night I decided to wrap up all the completed quests I had as well as a few other high XP reward quests that were in my log with the plan of jumping over to Outland this morning. As a result, I dinged 61, and I am now 1/2 way to 62.

I am a n00b to the forums here and I am sure there are lots of strats that are discussed, but I will put my vote in for moving to Outland/Northrend earlier rather than later.

I imagine that had I moved to Outland at 58, I would be close to 70 by now instead of 61-1/2. The new plan will be to move to Northrend at 68.

With all the BoA Heirloom gear, XP scaling outpaces the guide very easily and the scaling of the gear to the level of the toon means you spend less money on gear since you will keep those 5 pieces till 80 and you start running heroics.

It would be nice to see an updated guide for experienced players that already have 80's and access to BoA Heirlooms that makes leveling even quicker. I noticed that some quests get skipped in the current guide presumably because their is no accounting for the gear scaling that heirlooms give and thus may not feel a character is powerful enough to accomplish solo.

Seems that BoA Heirlooms put me about 1 level ahead of the guide for every 10-12 levels accomplished.

Ankh

[Kamchak]

Noob here, what does BoA stand for and where do you get the items? What are heirlooms? Rings and trinkets?

Hi 1manarmy;

BoA, as stated by Zygor, is Bind on account. These are also called Heirlooms. These items are very sought after for their properties.
First, they are equal to the item you will be able to get as a high blue, or very rare; and they progress in ability as you level. What that means is, as a level 1, the hit damage to a BoA item is equal to the top gear that is NOT BoA. When you level to 2, 3, 4, etc.... all the way to 80, the numbers increase with you. Your hit damage and/or armor is always top-of-the line, and you never have to change gear.
Second, you can transfer this gear to any toon you have on that realm. So, if you want to raid with a lvl 80, send that toon your BoA gear. If you then want to lvl a new toon, send the gear to that toon. No matter which toon has it, it will adjust to that toons lvl, and give max ability to that toon.
Finally, the chest and shoulders of a BoA gives 10% extra xp for both kills and quests, giving you a total of 20% extra xp if you have both attached.

The BoA items are bought by completing certain raids or instances. Neither of which you can do until you are 70+. (if I am mistaken on the level, please edit. Im working to get high enough for raid groups to let me in their raid atm.)

Anyway, go to the wow forum and search BoA or Heirloom.

Rings and trinkets.... bring up your character screen and look at the bottom right section, below your hands, legs, etc... there are spots for 2 trinkets and 2 rings. Each ring or trinket gives you different advantages when you equip it. One of my trinkets on my DK gives me 120 heal when I dodge, and the other gives me a 21% higher chance to dodge an attack. Keeps me alive longer when Im ganked by mobs. These you can buy at the AH, or get them as loot once in a while.

Hope that helps answer your questions

[1manarmy]

Thanks for all of your information. What are some of the commons raids I should be doing as a lvl 71 Mage? I would like to start acquiring these Heirlooms for my Mage and send some of them to lvl 58 DK

[Kamchak]

I am a lvl 71 DK, and am having no luck finding a raid/instance group that will take me along. Not many that are raid heavy want to take someone green. It mostly has to do with what you are geared with, and what you bring to the table with abilities. For me, I found great saronite gear I can equip when I hit 78, and I looted an epic plan for a helm that I offered to a BS in exchange for making the item for me. Looking forward to seeing what else I can loot plan wise for armor.

One of the tools you can use is the raid finder in your social pane. It will only list the raids/instances you are lvl'd to go on. Once you log in, put yourself into that system, and see what happens.

Also, keep a look out for who is trying to get raids together and ask them questions. Some are elitist that forgot they themselves were noobs once; others are very helpful. I have a lot of information just by asking simple questions.

[antacus]

I *just* tried the new LFG system last Thursday and even though I am 75% green / 25% blue items (and those are quest rewards) I was still placed into a group to run a dungeon. Sadly there was a wipe on the last boss and the group never reformed.

I am not sure what it feels like to actually complete a LFG but I did win a roll on a nice cloth (blue) hat :)

[Asgari]

Only really used the LFG tool at lower levels so far, ie 40-50. It's brilliant, as long as your group actually knows which boss to kill, lol. There's also a great differense in the length of the dungeons. BRD is a breeze, sunken temple has a lot more mob groups that must be killed.