Ahead of the guide

[fat_pappy1]

I have noticed that I am about 3 levels ahead of the guide. Should I countine to do all the quest or should I skip some? Is there an easy way to determine if a quest is one I can skip? I would hate to get to a new area and not be able to pick something up because I did not complete something else.

Any thoughts?

[Werderx]

This question use to be posted all over the place.
You are going to get three main suggestions.

Zygor staff will say only skip the quests if they are gray.

Others will say, "Do them anyways for the gold and rep rewards" (personally, i could give a hoot about rep and gold from questing anywhere other than northrend).

And my suggestion. Skip entire zones. More precisely, go to where the guide says you should be your current level and start from there. Mush through the guide, skipping anything that isn't available due to previous quest chains. This can be a little bumpy at first, but before you know it, you are right back in sync with the guide. The guide (in 1.0) helped this process because it would make stuff grayed out that was not in your quest log.

After you have been through the guide a few times like myself, you will make your own guide that tailors to your needs. I have developed my own sync points because I refuse to do gray quests and slow XP. On that note, I can't really name them off until i come across them in the guide. hehe

Going the way you are, you are probably going to run into this problem in Outlands as well (unless you use the flying mount to get everywhere), which is why quite a few head to Outlands at 58 instead of 60.

[antacus]

I find myself also getting ahead of the guide at certain points. On my higher level druid my friends help me with their 80's and we storm through things like mad so I get way out of wack with the guide. I simply find a good place to sync up based upon level when they are done helping me.

My lower level 25 mage/hunter pair are doing the RAF 300% XP boost and thus also ahead of the guide. Twice so far I have skipped sections of the guide simply because I found that I was getting 24-50xp per killl and that was even after the 3x boost. It was quicker to skip areas.

I do realize in both cases I am missing out on rep but I can go back and work on that after I get some serious levels :)

[mauror]

To me it's wrong skipping areas (I can understand if you're 10 levels ahead). All have this "epidemy" to skip this, don't do that. Well..

[Werderx]

Now we just need Zygor Staff to post to completely fulfill my post's prophecy. :D

[sonalita]

there is really no point in doing quests where you have to kill grey mobs or where the quest itself is grey as you won;t get any xp and therefore no levelling progress. Skip grey quests and move on.

I would suggest if you are 3 or more levels above the guide (which can easily happen if you have heirloom items and/or run instances) then skip to the next zone. Quest chains tend not to skip accross zones except for some optional "introduction" quests "e.g. Go take this to my firend in thousand needles..."

[silverhawk11]

Hello,

The only reason people recommend doing them anyways is due to quest rewards if they are chain quests, but if the mobs are gray then there really is no point is killing them as they will raise your /played time in the end.

If you don't mind me asking, how are you three levels ahead of the guide? Are you using heirlooms or something?

Silverhawk11

[antacus]

Last night I skipped ahead once and am going to skip again tonight. I had skipped sections in the past with this RAF pair (dual-box) of toons and last night I found myself at level 24 killing level 19 mobs when the guide said I should be level 21. I skipped a zone and put myself at a clean section of the guide that said I should be level 24. I played for about 1.5 hrs and the guide said I should be level 26 but I was 29 by then :rolleyes:

I have not been accepting the new quests the guide suggests and only turning things in and tonight will move out of the wetlands to where ever the guide suggests is the next area. I find the slowest part of leveling with the RAF xp bonus is the collection quests "get 8 crocolisk hides" type of things because I need 16 hides. While things die very fast to a hunter/mage combo there just is not enough giant crocolisks around to kill and I end up grinding or doing other quests waiting on things to repop. Even still my level 29 /played is under 21 hours. Probably not great for a long time player but for me I am impressed.

[mimen]

im a couple of levels ahead too, will still do the quests tho cos, well, thats what the game is all about

[antacus]

That is the great thing about warcraft. It is about whatever you want it to be. You want to spend your days and nights fishing then so be it. Or if you want to do every possible quest around then you have that ability. Each person has to decide what they like about WoW and follow their motivations :D

In the end I bought this guide to make the "race to 80" as quick as possible. I have done the 1-60 quests multiple times and then took a RL break. My friends did not quit and now have two level 80 toons. I find that I can't play with them now that I am back in the game (somewhat) so I want to simply fly through the lower level stuff and reach outlands with my mage. Once I hit 60 / outlands I have a feeling that we (RL friends and myself) will enjoy the game more. Right now it gets boring when they come back and kill everything in a 10 yard circle with 2-3 spells. How does that differ from skipping areas?

As I said, one of the things that makes WoW great is the flexibility of the game and the multitude of things to do. Right now for me racing to 80 (and skipping worthless things) is what my goal is. You may enjoy doing grey quests simply to see the game ... that is what you enjoy. Neither method is wrong ;)

[xuxabr]

If you don't mind me asking, how are you three levels ahead of the guide? Are you using heirlooms or something?

Silverhawk11

I can answer that question. I have been a few levels ahead of the guide due to the fact that I had a lot of rest time with that experience bonus.

And if there are a lot of quests to kill stuff, and it takes a long time to get certain items by killing stuff, you advance pretty quick :)

[antacus]

Resting is one way to get ahead of the guide.
The XP boost BOA items will also get you ahead slowly.
If you have high level friends helping you then you fall behind the guide due to lost xp per kill unless they help you do quests the guide does not have listed as the make-up factor.
I personally am doing the RAF xp boost which gives a 3x multiplier


Now, start combining the above ... the RAF 3x added with the 2x resting and you get a 5x gain for a while. I am not sure if the BOA stacks on top of that, I don't have any, but if it did then you are talking a max of what... 540% xp? I don't fully understand when you get 5x vs 3x but so far my level 37 toon has a played time of just under 1d4hr which would probably be better if someone who really knew the game did RAF. I tend to die by not watching the 2nd toon's health and other stupid mistakes.

Did you know jumping off the walkway by the fountain/docks in SW while on a mount insta-kills you but if you are not mounted you don't die? :rolleyes: It is a LONG walk back there.

[Werderx]

Did you know jumping off the walkway by the fountain/docks in SW while on a mount insta-kills you but if you are not mounted you don't die? :rolleyes: It is a LONG walk back there.

When mounted, the idea is to land on the ballista and you wont die, AND get the "Going Down" achievement... LOL but yeah. If you miss, it is a really long walk. :(

[antacus]

Well, I skipped ahead two more times. This last time I was 45 and the guide said I should be 41. I guess this makes about 5 times I skipped sections of the guide and let me say that it is not as fluid as some people suggest.

While the "Skip at a section where you go into a new area..." does work you more often then not do miss 1-4 quests which overlap. Granted 1-2 may be simple intro type of quests but some are the first step of a chain quest which it does not let me accept the "part 2" quest. Not the first time this has happened. In the end I am still levelling like mad so it does not bother me personally.

[mauror]

If you keep on skipping quests what about are you complaining? It's logical that you're missing quests chain etc. This guide is not designed to work with RAF so I see no point in your discussion. Just don't use RAF and other boosts.

[antacus]

Heh, I guess I was not as good at explaining myself as I had intended ;)

My previous post was NOT intended as a complaint but simply more as an informational post. There is a lot of people skipping (or at least asking about skipping) sections of the guide and as I am constantly skipping I thought I would chime in my $0.02 which is "skipping sections is not as fluid as seemingly presented here."

Since this is just a game and as such NOT complicated (accept this, kill 10 of those, go there and turn in) this is not a major ordeal in my mind and I'll keep going down the road I am on. I simply wanted to warn people who do not understand the game and/or are new. My fiancée's daughter just started playing and I would also not suggest she skip sections of the guide at all because she would be lost :rolleyes:

[b9aed709]

Hi, I bought this guide a while back and swear by it. I have levelled my DK to 80 and other buds in my guild from lvl 1 and he is now a 45 human rogue from Shu'Halo realm like me. We noticed the same thing that we are doing 39-40 requests and follow to guide to the T. However, my little friend is obsessed with running the Stocks and DM, so he got a little ahead of the game. I know people state, skip zones and move ahead, however, I waste more time especially on chain quests or not being able to do stuff from before, because there was an entire zone that was skipped. I am dedicated to staying with the spirit of the guide and follow suit, however my young friend gets impatient when we were doing low level quests and getting 25xp for the kill.. with no crit whatsoever...

[scritty]

If you are dual boxing AND RAF (which I suppose many do) then be prepared for the guide to get a little out of synch.

I have just bought the guide, and find this is the case from 1-20

the 3x XP makes the 0-60 part SOOO quick that the guide is perhaps not the best thing to use. It's possible, after all, to 0-60 in about 25 hours play with the RAF bonus.

Skip zones, and resynch the guide often and you'll be fine.
The from 60 onwards (RAF XP bonus only goes to level 60) the guide seems flipping brilliant, and a pair of characters do just fine following it to the letter.

If you were really MB'ing (say 5 chars at once) then I don't know what would happen.

Fun though!

Scritty