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    Talent Builds Discussion

    Hey there!

    So I noticed that Zygor allowed custom builds to be put into the Talent Advisor, which is just plain awesome. So, this thread will be used to show off our builds and to share with the community what they might use for PvP or for leveling, just in case a member wants to change it up a bit ;-).

    So, I'll start the thread off with my custom PvP build for my Warrior. Keep in mind, I did not update the glyphs due to the fact that I didn't want to purchase any other than the leveling ones because I'm being cheap and trying to get my epic flying mount ;-).

    Anyways, without further a-do, my Warriors PvP spec for Arms -

    ZygorGuidesBuilds.lua
    Code:
    ZygorTalentAdvisor:RegisterBuild( "WARRIOR", "Silverhawk PvP ( 56 / 15 / 0 ) - Custom", [[
    
            5/5 Deflection
    
            2/2 Improved Rend
    
            2/2 Improved Charge
    
            3/3 Iron Will
    
            3/3 Tactical Mastery
    
            2/2 Improved Overpower
    
            2/2 Impale
    
            3/3 Deep Wounds
    
            3/3 Taste for Blood
    
            1 Sweeping Strikes
    
            5/5 Poleaxe Specialization
    
            2/2 Weapon Mastery
    
            2/2 Trauma
    
            1 Mortal Strike
    
            2/2 Second Wind
    
            2/2 Strength of Arms
    
            1 Juggernaut
    
            3/3 Improved Mortal Strike
    
            1 Endless Rage
    
            3/3 Sudden Death
    
            2/2 Blood Frenzy
    
            5/5 Wrecking Crew
    
            1 Bladestorm
    
            3/3 Armored to the Teeth
    
            5/5 Cruelty
    
            3/5 Unbridled Wrath
    
            1 Piercing Howl
    
            3/3 Blood Craze
    
           
    
           
    
           
    
    ]], [[
    
            Major Glyph of Bladestorm
    
            Major Glyph of Execution
    
            Major Glyph of Mortal Strike
    
            Minor Glyph of Battle
    
            Minor Glyph of Bloodrage
    
            Minor Glyph of Charge
    
    ]])
    I keep my code inside of the official LUA file for organizations sake. Anyways, share some builds, guys! We'd love to see them!

    If you don't know how to create your own custom builds, give us a link of the Talent Build and we'll create it for you!

    -------------------------------------

    For making it easier to find some info it will be added here:

    The following is the easiest method to create your own build for use with the Talent Advisor. Doing it this way will not give you glyph suggestions in the Talent Advisor but will get your personal talent spec into it.

    Use the talent planner at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/.../talent-index/ to create your build (or to copy a build from WoWHead) then after you're done there's a button on the right that says 'Link to this Build'. After you click this the address in your browser will have a whole lot of numbers at the end of it.

    What do all those numbers mean? How the numbers are determined is quite easy, start with the left tree and from top to bottom work left to right for each talent. So if there's 3 talents in the top row then the first 3 numbers would be these talents from left to right, next row left talent would be the 4th number. After you're done with the first tree then you move to the middle tree and repeat, continuing after the numbers for the first tree. Rinse and repeat for the 3rd tree.

    Once you've gotten to this point change the class name (must be all capitalized and one word, MAGE in the example), the name of your build (and the points spent numbers, Custom (57/3/11) in the example), and copy/paste the long list of numbers from above steps to replace the sample ones in the following:
    Code:
    if not ZygorTalentAdvisor then return end
    
    ZygorTalentAdvisor:RegisterBuild("MAGE", "Custom (57/3/11)", "23000503310033015032310251532103000000000000000000000000002032030010000000000000000000")

    Installation Instructions

    1. Create a new file named Build01.lua and copy above into it.
    2. Place inside of .../World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/ZygorTalentAdvisor/Builds/.

    Replace the ... with the current file structure you're using to place your World of Warcraft file in.
    It may seem narcissistic to link this, but it's awesome nonetheless.

    #2
    Some inside info how the talents are parsed.

    First of all, although you may write talent points as 5/5 or 2/3 for clarity, only the first number is taken into account. So,
    5/5 Deflection
    equals
    5 Deflection
    equals
    2 Deflection
    3 Deflection
    equals
    Deflection
    Deflection
    Deflection
    Deflection
    Deflection
    .

    Also, it's better to keep your own builds tucked away in Build01.lua--Build40.lua files, in the ZygorTalentAdvisor\Builds folder - that's because when you update to a newer version of the Advisor, your precious builds stored in an "official" file would get overwritten.

    And, the talents - at least the way it works now - HAVE to be written in their English forms for the talent builds to work in every language. We may change that later, but for now the rule is to use English in the files.

    Remember that you can add // comments, to describe why you're going a particular path with the talents and satisfy people's curiosity.

    Happy building

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      #3
      Hey there,

      Cool! Thanks a lot! I'm too used to Garry's Mod structure where you have to add 'AddCSLuaFile(<name>.lua)' to download the new file, didn't know new files automatically loaded into that addon.

      And I originally thought that, but when I skimmed through the guide, I noticed that you guys used min/max the entire time except for the very first Death Knight build, so I figured I'd attempt to avoid any errors ;-). Suppose' I coulda played with it, though, haha.

      Yeah, that would clear things up a bit, if people read them except for the developers ;-). I was almost certain when writing the build that people would be like 'WAT, NEW PVP BUILD? COPY + PASTE MUAH!' and go from there! I will make certain to do that, though ;-).

      Very cool for the feedback, ZGDev, really appreciate that ;-). You heard the man! Get to work, my minions! Muahaha!

      Silverhawk11
      It may seem narcissistic to link this, but it's awesome nonetheless.

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        #4
        so if I was using the old talent build for a undead frost mage 66 frost and 5 arcane what should I do with the new talent advisor? I am level 50 and none of the included talent builds correspond with the old. What should I do I was getting used to this playing style?

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          #5
          can I get some guidance please. I was using the online frost build but it is not included in the in game builds what should I do? It seems to be replaced with a Frost/Arcane maybe the PVP build not sure but I'm level 50 now do I need to re-distribute my talent points to correspond with the in-game leveling frost build?

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            #6
            In-game talent build guide

            I am existing customer and got the new guides installed for both alliance and horde. When I go to my talent tree I do not see the talent build guide as shown in the video. Am I missing something somewhere? Please tell us how to get to this new toy in version 2.0.

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              #7
              did you click the "Z" button on your talent tree window?

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                #8
                protadin

                ok i am leveling a paladin and prot is more my spec so i came to the forums and here perfect match so i got the link here:
                http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZV0t...fdtsMob:RamcVz

                this is the levels i want it:
                10-14 5/5 Divine Strength
                15-19 5/5 Anticipation
                20-24 5/5 Toughness
                25-27 3/3 Improved Devotion Aura
                28-29 2/3 Improved Righteous Fury
                30 1/1 Blessing of Sanctuary
                31 3/3 Improved Righteous Fury
                32-34 3/5 Reckoning
                35-36 2/2 Sacred Duty
                37-39 3/3 One-Handed Weapon Specialization
                40 1/1 Holy Shield
                41 1/2 Spiritual Attunement
                42-44 3/3 Ardent Defender
                45-47 3/3 Redoubt
                48-49 2/3 Combat Expertise
                50 1/1 Avenger's Shield
                51-53 3/3 Touched by the Light
                54 3/3 Combat Expertise
                55-56 2/2 Judgements of the Just
                57-59 3/3 Shield of the Templar
                60 1/1 Hammer of the Righteous


                61-80
                61-65 5/5 Deflection
                66 1/2 Improved Judgements
                67-69 3/3 Heart of the Crusader
                70-71 2/2 Guarded by the Light
                72 1/5 Benediction
                73-74 2/2 Vindiction
                75-76 2/2 Pursuit of Justice
                77 1/5 Conviction
                78 1/1 Divine Sacrifice
                79-80 2/2 Divine Guardian


                Glyphs

                Major

                Glyph of Avenger's Shield
                Glyph of Exorcism
                Glyph of Hammer of Wrath


                Minor

                Glyph of Lay on Hands
                Glyph of the Wise
                Glyph of Blessing of Kings


                hope this is how i am suppose to do this thanks in advance
                Quote: "This is how it starts off.. everyone needs a Warlock alt.. then it becomes their main.. then they start taking over third world countries. Stuff happens."

                -Abi http://kungaloosh.wordpress.com/

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                  #9
                  this maybe?

                  ZygorTalentAdvisor:RegisterBuild("PALADIN","Protec tion leveling(0 / 56 / 15) - Custom",[[
                  5/5 Divine Strength
                  5/5 Anticipation
                  5/5 Toughness
                  3/3 Improved Devotion Aura
                  2/3 Improved Righteous Fury
                  1/1 Blessing of Sanctuary
                  1 Improved Righteous Fury // (3/3 Now)
                  3/5 Reckoning
                  2/2 Sacred Duty
                  3/3 One-Handed Weapon Specialization
                  1/1 Holy Shield
                  1/2 Spiritual Attunement
                  3/3 Ardent Defender
                  3/3 Redoubt
                  2/3 Combat Expertise
                  1/1 Avenger's Shield
                  3/3 Touched by the Light
                  1 Combat Expertise // (3/3 Now)
                  2/2 Judgements of the Just
                  3/3 Shield of the Templar
                  1/1 Hammer of the Righteous
                  5/5 Deflection
                  1/2 Improved Judgements
                  3/3 Heart of the Crusader
                  2/2 Guarded by the Light
                  1/5 Benediction
                  2/2 Vindiction
                  2/2 Pursuit of Justice
                  1/5 Conviction
                  1/1 Divine Sacrifice
                  2/2 Divine Guardian
                  ]], [[
                  Major Glyph of Avenger's Shield
                  Major Glyph of Exorcism
                  Major Glyph of Hammer of Wrath
                  Minor Glyph of Lay on Hands
                  Minor Glyph of the Wise
                  Minor Glyph of Blessing of Kings
                  ]])




                  is that how i do it? do i just copy that and paste it into the paladin section?

                  EDIT: ok i spaced where it needed to match all the others pasted it in there with all the other stuff and log into wow and IT WAS THERE!!!!! /successdance used silver'ss as a template thanks silver
                  Last edited by 0110; October 22, 2009, 06:52 PM. Reason: update didnt want to triple post
                  Quote: "This is how it starts off.. everyone needs a Warlock alt.. then it becomes their main.. then they start taking over third world countries. Stuff happens."

                  -Abi http://kungaloosh.wordpress.com/

                  Comment


                    #10
                    As stated earlier you'll want to put that paladin build into a different file. create a new file called Build01.lua and put it into that. Any updates to Zygor can easily overwrite the supplied build file in order to fix mistakes or improve the recommended builds.
                    My Flight Path Follies guide

                    A pessimist knows all women are bad... an optimist hopes they are.

                    I reject your reality and substitute my own.

                    All foreign languages are done with Google Translate.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cabby View Post
                      As stated earlier you'll want to put that paladin build into a different file. create a new file called Build01.lua and put it into that. Any updates to Zygor can easily overwrite the supplied build file in order to fix mistakes or improve the recommended builds.
                      i copied and pasted into word so when it happens i can just readd it easy
                      Quote: "This is how it starts off.. everyone needs a Warlock alt.. then it becomes their main.. then they start taking over third world countries. Stuff happens."

                      -Abi http://kungaloosh.wordpress.com/

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                        #12
                        For onemanarmy create a new file called build01.lua in the builds folder of your talent advisor addon and then copy/paste the following into it to be able to have access to the old frost build.

                        Code:
                        ZygorTalentAdvisor:RegisterBuild( "MAGE", "Original Frost ( 5 / 0 / 66 ) - Custom", [[
                        
                                5 Frostbite
                                3 Improved Frostbolt
                                3 Ice Floes
                                3 Ice Shards
                                2 Frost Warding
                                3 Precision
                                3 Permafrost
                                3 Piercing Ice
                                1 Icy Veins
                                3 Improved Blizzard
                                2 Arctic Reach
                                3 Frost Channeling
                                3 Shatter
                                1 Cold Snap
                                3 Improved Cone of Cold
                                2 Cold as Ice
                                3 Winter's Chill
                                1 Ice Barrier
                                2 Shattered Barrier
                                5 Arctic Winds
                                2 Empowered Frostbolt
                                1 Summon Water Elemental
                                3 Enduring Winter
                                5 Chilled to the Bone
                                1 Deep Freeze
                                2 Arcane Subtlety
                                3 Arcane Focus
                        
                        ]], [[
                        
                                Major Glyph of Frost Nova
                                Major Glyph of Ice Barrier
                                Major Glyph of Ice Armor
                                Minor Glyph of Slow Fall
                                Minor Glyph of Frost Armor
                                Minor Glyph of Arcane Intellect
                        
                        ]])
                        My Flight Path Follies guide

                        A pessimist knows all women are bad... an optimist hopes they are.

                        I reject your reality and substitute my own.

                        All foreign languages are done with Google Translate.

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                          #13
                          Also, anyone that makes a custom build lua, don't forget that the very first line of the file needs to be:

                          Code:
                          if not ZygorTalentAdvisor then return end
                          My Flight Path Follies guide

                          A pessimist knows all women are bad... an optimist hopes they are.

                          I reject your reality and substitute my own.

                          All foreign languages are done with Google Translate.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by 0110 View Post
                            i copied and pasted into word so when it happens i can just readd it easy
                            But why do that when you can make one file once and never have to think about it again unless you want to change the build order?
                            My Flight Path Follies guide

                            A pessimist knows all women are bad... an optimist hopes they are.

                            I reject your reality and substitute my own.

                            All foreign languages are done with Google Translate.

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                              #15
                              brain dont know that much bout this stuffz ????
                              Quote: "This is how it starts off.. everyone needs a Warlock alt.. then it becomes their main.. then they start taking over third world countries. Stuff happens."

                              -Abi http://kungaloosh.wordpress.com/

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